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Episode•September 29, 2025•8 min

What media consolidation means for free speech

Jimmy Kimmel’s brief departure from the airwaves triggered a wave of debate over free speech. Partly triggering his suspension was the government threatening to leverage its power over pending media deals. That’s in part due to a piece of decades-old legislation. Today on the show, we look at how the Telecommunications Act of 1996 set the stage for government meddling and corporate capitulation. Related episodes: Breaking up big business is hard to do (https://www.npr.org/2023/08/14/1193784258/breaking-up-big-business-is-hard-to-do) Mergers, acquisitions and Elon’s “rude” proposal (https://www.npr.org/2022/06/13/1104792247/mergers-acquisitions-and-elons-rude-proposal) For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org/). Fact-checking by Sierra Juarez (https://www.npr.org/people/1268825622/sierra-juarez). Music by Drop Electric (https://dropelectric.bandcamp.com/). Find us: TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@planetmoney), Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/planetmoney/), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/planetmoney), Newsletter (https://www.npr.org/newsletter/money). To manage podcast ad preferences, review the links below: See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

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With the suspension and then return of late night TV host Jimmy Kimmel, free speech has been a big national conversation over the last couple of weeks.

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This all began with the tragic shooting of conservative influencer Charlie Kirk and comments Kimmel made in the wake of that on his late night show.

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We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them.

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But when it comes to free speech, there's another conversation which deserves more airtime that may explain how we got here. It's the Telecommunications act of 1996. This is the indicator from Planet Money. I'm Darian Woods.

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And I'm Adrienne Maher. Today on the show, the economics of television censorship. How the Telecommunications act set the stage for government meddling and corporate capitulation.

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We should start with a little explainer on how TV works in America. So you have the networks which create shows like Jimmy Kimmel Live. And most of these networks are not actually TV stations. They just produce shows that TV stations around the country buy. And there are two huge companies that own a lot of TV stations and buy that content. One of them is called Sinclair Broadcast Group and the other is nextstar. Together they cover most of America.

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And the Trump administration has been piling on the pressure to these companies. It's no secret that Trump hates these

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late night comedians and that they are not fans of his either.

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You can't turn him off. He won't power down. He's like Ultron. He just keeps going. Every day it's something crazier than this.

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I don't care for him.

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Doesn't seem to have like the skill set.

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Doesn't have the skill set to be president. You know, just not a good fit, that's all. It's also no secret that these companies involved in Jimmy Kimmel each have deals pending that need government approval. Nextstar is in the middle of a huge deal trying to absorb another media company, Tegna, that would bring it to covering a massive 80% of American households. That's Something that would require approval from the, the FCC and other regulators.

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So, yes, because the government has leverage over these deals, that definitely encourages these entertainment companies to want to play ball with the White House. But let's look at the roots of the issue here. Let's figure out how these corporations got so big that they could sway the fate of a big TV show like Jimmy Kimmel Live, and why the Trump administration has so much power over their broadcast decisions. For that, we spoke to Rohit Chopra.

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I'm a former commissioner on the Federal Trade Commission, and I was also head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau up to fairly recently.

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Right.

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Until I was fired. That's right.

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Rohit was fired by President Trump along with a lot of other Democratic appointees. Rohit was skeptical of monopolies when he was in office, and he doesn't mince words when he talks about the Jimmy Kimmel saga being a symptom of how corporations like NextStar and Sinclair have grown larger and larger.

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Decades ago, most people were getting information from newspapers and then local tv. And we've seen since that time where we had diversity and information sources, now just a handful of conglomerates, many times run by rich oligarchs in our society. They now control so much of the flow of information online and through the airwaves.

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To Rohit, when a big conglomerate stops broadcasting a show for political reasons, that's not just a difference of opinion within a vibrant marketplace of ideas. To him, that's censorship.

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It becomes easier to censor people when a few corporations hold the reins for how the media is going to report news.

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Rohit at least partially blames the Telecommunications act of 1996.

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The Telecommunications act of 1996 was one of many policy changes since the Reagan era to loosen up ownership restrictions when it came to the flow of information in our society.

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The Telecom act is a sprawling piece of legislation signed under President Clinton and House Speaker Newt Gingrich. It covers everything from phone lines to the Internet to cable tv. But key to this story, prior to the Telecom act, companies couldn't have TV audiences that covered more than 25% of the population. The rationale was to ensure that TV showed a range of views, that it was responsive to local needs and was competitive. This new law eased the corporate straitjacket. It allowed TV companies to grow bigger and paved the way for the current limit, which is 39% of America.

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And so at that time, we saw huge amounts of consolidation. So it was, it was, I guess, an attempt to reflect a different information environment. But many people look at it in retrospect as really just a big corporate giveaway.

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Rohit wants to do away with the Telecommunications act entirely and build a new law in its place, one that is not so friendly to broadcast companies growing larger and larger.

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It is not just the Telecom Act.

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That's Olivier Sylvain. He's a law professor at Fordham University. And Olivier emphasizes a point that Rohit also shares, which is that not all the blame can be pinned on the law.

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It just happens that the FCC for the past few decades has been in especially deregulatory mood and has been reading the Telecom act as entitling companies to buy up properties across the country.

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That said, Olivier has some sympathy for the idea that concentration of broadcast companies has been a problem, given that broadcasters

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do have an outsized impact on certain kinds of content, say sports programming or late night television or news. I think there's absolutely something to it. On the other hand, you know, Joe Rogan is a kingmaker and runs a podcast and he doesn't have a broadcast license. Right.

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In other words, maybe media concentration isn't as concentrated as it looks. And we raised this with Rohit.

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Is the media landscape really as consolidated as you say it is? If you take a broader definition of how information flows, not just tv, but podcasts and streamers and newsletters.

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Well, I really reflect back to some of the origins of our Internet. No one really owned the World Wide Web. Everyone was able to publish using a common set of protocols. But increasingly, our information ecosystem is now dominated by all of these gatekeepers, whether it be YouTube or Facebook or Spotify, or like Disney and Paramount, who are succumbing to some of these government controls.

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The bigger the company, the more money at stake. And so that means the information we all receive could be more vulnerable to the whims of whoever's in government. The government has the rubber stamp. What the Jimmy Kimmel story seems to teach us is that concentrated markets have the potential to choke freedom of speech.

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This episode was produced by Cooper Katz McKim with engineering by Sina Alfredo. It was fact checked by Sierra Juarez. Cake and Cannon edits the show and the indicators of production of NPR.

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